hallo ,.
ich komme aus deutschland und war bis vor 15 jahren ein zeuge jehovas.. wurde mich sehr freuen wenn hier jemand ist der deutsch kann und mir hilfe im forum gibt.. mit lieben gruen aus germany.
peter
HALLO Peter!
For those who are wondering what the guy said, here it is:
hello, I come from Germany and was until before 15 years witness jehovas. very would make me happy if here someone is that German can and me assistance in the forum gives. with dear greet from Germany Peter
hey everyone,.
as you can see im new here, and like every new person im trying to sort alll this jw stuff out.
i have no idea where to start, but here goes.. i first started questioning all this when 'a brother' in the congregation sexually abused one of my best friends family members, he did not get disfellowshipped, but he got publicly reproved?!
Thats a relief Lonely Sam, for a moment I thought you had done a runner on us.
Say, do you really believe that Noah can get ALL the animals onto the ark on the 'selfsame day'?
hello everyone.
have recently met someone, amazing person!
however have many questions about jw's and wt.
Dont get involved unless there is a chance of leading her away from the Watchtower Society. If you do you will piss your life away. If you want to do that, that is your problem, but that is my advice, free from me to you. Take it or throw it away.
hey everyone i know its been a while since i posted but today i felt the need.just wanted to update you all on my position which is still brainwashed!i just dont know what to do i gain my strength to conquer this disease,(thats what i call being born in the org) from others like freedom lover who have come out of this religon free and clear i know its not easy but i know it can be done.i dont know why i just cant get over it and move on already,but theres thats piece of me that says,but what if?then im back, screwed and tatooed with jdub on my forehead,thinking that jehovah is upset and dissapointed with me and satan has me in his grasp.im stil sooo confused even with all the evidence pointing to they are full of crap!what if they arent?i just want to know the truth even if i dont choose to follow it,i want to know if jehovah is watching me torment myself every day,going back and forth and i cant take it anymore.then i think what if there is no jehovah?who the hell am i praying to with my daughter at night?
(the air mabe)you see my daughter still believes even though she is ready to celebrate halloween this year and yes we bought her a costume,cinderella!my mother comes and takes her every now and then only if i promise to go to some meetings and i did last weekend i attended the sunday meeting for once in a about 6 months!felt strange to be there but once again going to a different cong i got love bombed.btw i feel guilty and scared about having anything to do with halloween this year.yup still dealing with the guilt,fear,agony,of knowing and believing in the dubs,for so long now trying desperately to get out without feeling the way i do.i just dont know what to do anymore and its a shame because the dubs have sucked the life out of me(guess i didnt check my doubts soon enough).if i dont get off the fence soon im going to go nuts.i like believeing that satan doesnt even exist and that there is no heavenly org.gives me peace of mind that i can just live my life,if theres a god,fine,is it jehovah?thats where the conflict arises and i cant just go on with my life thinking jehovah has lost me to the other side!
!im not a lost cause yet guys.i need new light!
Hi, thanks for posting...your post brought back memories.
Have you read Ray Franz Crises of Conscience? If not, please take time to do so. It set me free, at last. I was in the same position as you, undecided. What if they really were the Faithful Slave? Well, the answer lies in the Bible. Deauteronomy says that if a prophet speaks in the name of God, and that word does not come true then we should not believe the prophet. Jesus said Beware of False Prophets. Do the Watchtower/Governing Body claim to be prophets?
Yes.
Watchtower of 1972 April 1. Under the heading 'They shall know that a prophet was among them' , we read: People today can view the creative works. They have at hand the Bible, but it is little read or understood. So, does Jehovah have a prophet to help them, to warn them of dangers and to declare things to come? IDENTIFYING THE "PROPHET" These questions can be answered in the affirmative. Who is this prophet? ... This "prophet" was not one man, but was a body of men and women. It was the small group of footstep followers of Jesus Christ, known at that time as International Bible Students. Today they are known as Jehovah's Christian witnesses. ... Of course, it is easy to say that this group acts as a "prophet" of God. It is another thing to prove it. The only way that this can be done is to review the record..."
So you see they are asking you to review their record. What is their record?
Check out freeminds to see a comprehensive list of all Watchtower false prophecy. You cant argue against this. They claim to be prophets...but they are not! Who can argue against that? I challenge anyone to argue against it.
just saw this and wanted to post it for any whom may find it of interest:.
http://theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=1149.
*** the new pope, benedict xvi, was actively investigating secret societies including the knights templar and the illuminati, it was revealed yesterday.
Hey Pope Benedick.
or, neither true nor false?.
*shamelessly plagiarising undisfellowshipped's threads for not being able to respond unilaterally to any of them as he seems to wish.*.
first remark: the bible is a (fortuitous or providential) collection of texts with different perspectives on most issues; so you can bet that about any sentence starting with "the bible teaches / says etc.
Is the Bible true? False.
Is the Bible False? True.
I guess the Bible is both true and false!
is the bible false?
i encourage everyone to post on this thread the main reasons why you do not believe that the bible is the true inspired word of god.. i want to examine both sides of this subject, so i am also posting another thread entitled "is the bible true?
" at: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/100531/1.ashx.
Oh, yeh! I've spent many a time reading it. Here's a good one: # All of the animals boarded the ark "in the selfsame day." 7:13-14... impossible.
i tried it, could not swallow all the lies and misinformation they had.
i am sorry, but even if you deny the whole witness faith, there is still parts to christianity that they pointed out that you can not just ignore and act like it is okay to join another faith that is christian.
are you going to become catholic when your know their history?
lol...yeah, I mean come on... jealousy is bad, but hey! He's a jealous God, right?!
7 let us rejoice and be overjoyed, and let us give him the glory, because the marriage of the lamb has arrived and his wife has prepared herself.
1 and i saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the former heaven and the former earth had passed away, and the sea is no more.
2 i saw also the holy city, new jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from god and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
I love this guy.
a while back i did some online research on the mormons.
i came across some ex-mormons sites.
i was shocked to see that their exit stories and problems were almost the same!
I got one name for you all: DONNY OSMOND. Now can we finally agree that all Mormons are sad pathetic losers?
Ok...ok...not all...
